Whats up with the constant religion bashing? It’s wrong and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I used to think this was a fun, intelligent blog…clearly I was wrong. This sort of stuff completely diminishes the sites rep.
And don’t tell me to lighten up and that it was a ‘joke’. It stopped being funny after the first time.
Yeah, the truth of religion is that it has been responsible for more bloodshed and war than any other factor on earth. And I find it curious that more people have died in Jesus’ name than any other human being, ever, even Hitler. Kinda strange for a guy who preached peace and tolerance, eh?
people are allowed to have their own view on different things.
dont get offended when someone expresses their view. your pretty much confirming the comic if you do.
Could be funny, but it’s stupid : religion is about things that are not tangible, so the example is really a bad choice, and doesnt demonstrate anything.
Instead of “I has a baseball” try “I feel good”.
And the proof is : the way you behave. And its rather an indication than a proof.
There is no conventional versus religious logic, there is openmindess versus intolerance. And you don’t need to be religious to be intolerant. Well in fact, usually religion help not to be intolerant.
i think involving religion with anything is stupid, well ppl have their own view why would u bring it to public when u know it might hurt some ppl …..this is stupid
By and large, religions aren’t about “I feel good” so much as “I has a god” and that is something about which people are entitled to ask for proof. If it was about an ethical system, it would be about how you behave, but people have those independent of being religious.
Also, the comic is actually about logic, not tolerance and intolerance. You can claim it addresses logic in an intolerant way, but that would be irrelevant to its point. It’s about a system of thought: rational conventional logic, when presented with a claim, asks for proof; irrational religious logic defies the nature of proof all together as most con artists are prone to do.
People might be more accepting of the claims that being against religious arguments is intolerant or bigoted were it not a choice. A bias against someone’s race, their gender, their sexuality are things that they had no say in and have no direct effect on those around them. However, religion and religious thinking are inherently based on choices. If you want to make that choice, you are free to do so, but in so far as it negatively effect the quality of life around the world, you’re darn right I’m going to be against it.
Lastly, religion doesn’t “help not to be intolerant”. It is often a major source of intolerance, creating rifts where there wouldn’t be any. Explain how it helps people to not be intolerant to those slain in the name of a god or an irrational belief system.
Most striking about this twee ‘article’
- The poor English (’I has a ball’ is maybe ‘kewl’ ?)
- Where is the humour in it? …. or did I miss the point?
- How many responses it’s eliciting! :)))
I’m number 2….I’m not a big mad religious obsessive, I really am not…but I do believe in God and that works for me, so people should accept that…
I don’t mind an the odd religious joke, but a) there is too many and it’s basically just slagging people off, and b)at least make them funny.
It’s funny how many people of ‘faith’ can’t laugh at their religion… as if somehow it’s taboo to show the dark side of religion. The comic is funny and portrays a stereotype that at times is dead on. So maybe not ALL people of faith are crazy but it’s certainly an overwhelming majority. Laugh and get over it. At least they had the decency to omit Mohammed from the comic, that would’ve brewed one hell of a storm.
It isn’t about “everybody wins”. Besides, when that absurd line about the proof/not-proof comes up and is shot down, the “you can’t prove that I don’t” is never far behind.
Have a look at the talk of Richard Dawkins on militant atheism on http://www.ted.com.
For the sake of comparing religious thinking and science, he imagines a special issue of the Quarterly Review of Biology on the topic “Did an Asteroid kill the dinosaurs?”.
Here is a list of papers, based on different… well… methodologies.
1) Iridium layer at the K/T boundary, and potassium argon dated crater in Yucatan indicate that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
2) The president of the Royal Society has been vouchsafed a strong inner conviction that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
3) It has been privately revealed to Professor Huxley that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
4) Professor O’Neil was brought up to have total and unquestioning faith that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
5) Professor Hawkins has promulgated an official dogma bounding on all Hawkinsians that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
I don’t believe in organized religion, but i don’t mock people for having faith. My problem with it is just that there are simply too many of them, and the reality is they debate amongst themselves more than they debate with the scientific community. Just about every war throughout human history has had a religious untertone if it wasn’t classified as a holy-war all together.
And as for conventional logic, 600 years ago the earth was definately flat, 150 years ago it was impossible for man to fly, 60 years ago man could never walk on the moon, and Einstein was a whack job until he was proven right. So my conclusion as far as that goes is that a good portion of what we now consider to be “Conventional logic” will be cast asside before we have all the answers.
It’s the human condition to both fear and have curiosity about the unknown, and my personal opionion is that both science and religion will find they have more in common than they once thought before all is said and done.
1. people have known that the earth is a globe of quite a while. It was simply the Lay people (religious) that though the earth was flat mostly based on biblical interpretation.
2.It is generally the common people that think things are impossible. Most scientists (good ones anyway) will admit that most things are possible, given the right technology.
And conventional logic and religious logic work in a very similar manner. Religious logic simply ignores all of the progress that mankind has made in the last few thousand years.
Please read the classic debate, “Did Jesus Rise from the Dead?: The Resurrection Debate” which describes a debate between two philosophers, one an atheist, and the other a Christian. Surprisingly, at least to the prejudiced and stereotypically minded people of limited human experience perhaps, the Christian won. And he didn’t even have to have a giant, mean head. It is logical to accept the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. It is illogical to reject it. Don’t worry about big angry heads. Concern yourself with closed minds.
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37 Responses
Jody
September 10th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
1Why ? I am a devoted Chrsitian. I don’t behave in this manner. I want to read your blog. Please don’t be insulting!
As
September 10th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
2Whats up with the constant religion bashing? It’s wrong and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I used to think this was a fun, intelligent blog…clearly I was wrong. This sort of stuff completely diminishes the sites rep.
And don’t tell me to lighten up and that it was a ‘joke’. It stopped being funny after the first time.
seanithan
September 10th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
3Religion bashing is fine because religion is stupid.
Secondly, it’s still funny.
By the way, this “blog” just steals things from other blogs and reposts them.
P.S. Religion is stupid.
Whatever
September 10th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
4Aand the logic of abiogenesis is so much stronger.
bee
September 10th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
5i really feel sorry for those who those who accuse religion to be stupid, since they are poor for not knowing even half the truth.
Homeless Pie
September 10th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
6Yeah, the truth of religion is that it has been responsible for more bloodshed and war than any other factor on earth. And I find it curious that more people have died in Jesus’ name than any other human being, ever, even Hitler. Kinda strange for a guy who preached peace and tolerance, eh?
seph
September 10th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
7people are allowed to have their own view on different things.
dont get offended when someone expresses their view. your pretty much confirming the comic if you do.
marvel
September 11th, 2008 at 1:36 am
8Could be funny, but it’s stupid : religion is about things that are not tangible, so the example is really a bad choice, and doesnt demonstrate anything.
Instead of “I has a baseball” try “I feel good”.
And the proof is : the way you behave. And its rather an indication than a proof.
There is no conventional versus religious logic, there is openmindess versus intolerance. And you don’t need to be religious to be intolerant. Well in fact, usually religion help not to be intolerant.
Don’t be so “conventional”, please.
Marvel
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tyga
September 11th, 2008 at 3:58 am
10Religion is inherently irrational, which is what the funny comic represents.
What’s rational about believing something without any evidence?
And why ought I respect stupidity? (answering this question would be an exercise in stupidity)
Junal
September 11th, 2008 at 4:27 am
11i think involving religion with anything is stupid, well ppl have their own view why would u bring it to public when u know it might hurt some ppl …..this is stupid
Jesus H Christ
September 11th, 2008 at 7:02 am
12Oh deal..here come the “Holier than thou Zealots”
Gimme a break…this is so true and very farking funny. Keep the anti religius stuff coming..its lovely
I hate God!
theaccringtonian
September 11th, 2008 at 7:44 am
13re (9):
A couple of things to be aware of. . . . .
Religion and faith are not interchangeable terms, rather they are very different concepts.
Man is a unique animal in as much as he is the only animal which voluntarily travels to impose its will on other groups of the same animal.
In doing so, men will always try to mitigate its actions by giving their actions a “noble” motive - and hence avoid confronting their own evil.
Man is evil. Religion is managed by man. Religion is, ipso facto, evil.
Jesus Christ was not a human being
theaccringtonian
September 11th, 2008 at 7:49 am
14Apologies - my last post should be addressing (6). . . .
Mereel
September 11th, 2008 at 8:22 am
15Marvel,
By and large, religions aren’t about “I feel good” so much as “I has a god” and that is something about which people are entitled to ask for proof. If it was about an ethical system, it would be about how you behave, but people have those independent of being religious.
Also, the comic is actually about logic, not tolerance and intolerance. You can claim it addresses logic in an intolerant way, but that would be irrelevant to its point. It’s about a system of thought: rational conventional logic, when presented with a claim, asks for proof; irrational religious logic defies the nature of proof all together as most con artists are prone to do.
People might be more accepting of the claims that being against religious arguments is intolerant or bigoted were it not a choice. A bias against someone’s race, their gender, their sexuality are things that they had no say in and have no direct effect on those around them. However, religion and religious thinking are inherently based on choices. If you want to make that choice, you are free to do so, but in so far as it negatively effect the quality of life around the world, you’re darn right I’m going to be against it.
Lastly, religion doesn’t “help not to be intolerant”. It is often a major source of intolerance, creating rifts where there wouldn’t be any. Explain how it helps people to not be intolerant to those slain in the name of a god or an irrational belief system.
Dee
September 11th, 2008 at 9:24 am
16Most striking about this twee ‘article’
- The poor English (’I has a ball’ is maybe ‘kewl’ ?)
- Where is the humour in it? …. or did I miss the point?
- How many responses it’s eliciting! :)))
seanithan
September 11th, 2008 at 9:34 am
17Marvel, to say that religion has helped people to be tolerant is to ignore history as a whole. That’s just silly.
Ash
September 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
18I’m number 2….I’m not a big mad religious obsessive, I really am not…but I do believe in God and that works for me, so people should accept that…
I don’t mind an the odd religious joke, but a) there is too many and it’s basically just slagging people off, and b)at least make them funny.
Kurt
September 11th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
19I loved it, bashing (organized) religion is great, especially when the comments people make about it being offensive only reinforce our point.
Go Dawkins!
JD
September 11th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
20LOL,
I dont care if its true or not, but its still funny.
the people that are getting offended by this need to relax some.
try not to be so angry.
jesus
September 12th, 2008 at 4:42 am
21this is freaking hysterical.
And true.
Thank you.
Jesus
Steve
September 12th, 2008 at 9:36 am
22It’s funny how many people of ‘faith’ can’t laugh at their religion… as if somehow it’s taboo to show the dark side of religion. The comic is funny and portrays a stereotype that at times is dead on. So maybe not ALL people of faith are crazy but it’s certainly an overwhelming majority. Laugh and get over it. At least they had the decency to omit Mohammed from the comic, that would’ve brewed one hell of a storm.
joojoo
September 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
23too funny.
Syfox
September 15th, 2008 at 12:36 am
24Hrm. It’s more right to say, “I have lots of proof that I have a baseball, but I can’t really prove it to you.” Everybody wins.
Mereel
September 15th, 2008 at 7:16 am
25Syfox,
It isn’t about “everybody wins”. Besides, when that absurd line about the proof/not-proof comes up and is shot down, the “you can’t prove that I don’t” is never far behind.
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Cedric
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:35 am
27Have a look at the talk of Richard Dawkins on militant atheism on http://www.ted.com.
For the sake of comparing religious thinking and science, he imagines a special issue of the Quarterly Review of Biology on the topic “Did an Asteroid kill the dinosaurs?”.
Here is a list of papers, based on different… well… methodologies.
1) Iridium layer at the K/T boundary, and potassium argon dated crater in Yucatan indicate that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
2) The president of the Royal Society has been vouchsafed a strong inner conviction that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
3) It has been privately revealed to Professor Huxley that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
4) Professor O’Neil was brought up to have total and unquestioning faith that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
5) Professor Hawkins has promulgated an official dogma bounding on all Hawkinsians that an asteroid killed the dinosaurs.
Which one would you find the most convincing?
ShadowfoxXXX
September 24th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
28Check out my url… i think it speak for itself.
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2843905157agf482e1a294otm0.jpg
ShadowfoxXXX
September 24th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
29I like my explanation. I saw this pic and whipped one up myself
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2843905157agf482e1a294otm0.jpg
Brian
September 30th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
30I don’t believe in organized religion, but i don’t mock people for having faith. My problem with it is just that there are simply too many of them, and the reality is they debate amongst themselves more than they debate with the scientific community. Just about every war throughout human history has had a religious untertone if it wasn’t classified as a holy-war all together.
And as for conventional logic, 600 years ago the earth was definately flat, 150 years ago it was impossible for man to fly, 60 years ago man could never walk on the moon, and Einstein was a whack job until he was proven right. So my conclusion as far as that goes is that a good portion of what we now consider to be “Conventional logic” will be cast asside before we have all the answers.
It’s the human condition to both fear and have curiosity about the unknown, and my personal opionion is that both science and religion will find they have more in common than they once thought before all is said and done.
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Ethered
October 11th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
32This is actualy true. Religion is stupid and just another form of control. But most people are too stupid to see that.
Ben
October 11th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
33@Brian
1. people have known that the earth is a globe of quite a while. It was simply the Lay people (religious) that though the earth was flat mostly based on biblical interpretation.
2.It is generally the common people that think things are impossible. Most scientists (good ones anyway) will admit that most things are possible, given the right technology.
And conventional logic and religious logic work in a very similar manner. Religious logic simply ignores all of the progress that mankind has made in the last few thousand years.
Brad
October 12th, 2008 at 1:14 am
34YOU CANT PROVE RELIGION IS STUPID !!!!!!! (angry face)
greenerman
October 12th, 2008 at 4:33 am
35Please read the classic debate, “Did Jesus Rise from the Dead?: The Resurrection Debate” which describes a debate between two philosophers, one an atheist, and the other a Christian. Surprisingly, at least to the prejudiced and stereotypically minded people of limited human experience perhaps, the Christian won. And he didn’t even have to have a giant, mean head. It is logical to accept the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. It is illogical to reject it. Don’t worry about big angry heads. Concern yourself with closed minds.
just me
October 12th, 2008 at 9:35 am
36One day the devil and his new apprentice were following a man looking for truth. The man was walking along, and tripped on a piece of truth.
“Oh, no!”, said the apprentice, “He’s found something!”.
“Don’t worry.”, said the devil. “He’ll just move it, chip away parts he doesn’t like, and maybe even paint it. Sometimes they even pile them up!”
They both laughed and kept walking.
Different JD
October 13th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
371st Pane
“I have a tangible object”
“Prove it”
Reveal tangible object
2nd Pane
“I have an intangible belief”
“Prove it”
“I believe that by stating my belief, it proves that I have it”
“Oh, cool”
I don’t think that particular comic would have attracted this many comments.
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