Written by Daily Garlic
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for turning my tap water into alcohol and a never ending food basket, but I’m tired of all these people whining and telling me how to live my life. You do your thing, I do my thing, we’re all happy, but after reading that someone is paying Facebook to post a religious article titled “6 Reasons You Have To Believe In God”, I figured I’d grab my own cross and at least have fun while getting ready to be crucified for having an opinion.
The argument that because complex life exists, it must have been “created” is ridiculous, and it’s time someone said it. Yay, we have lots of chromosomes, we can see in color and keep erections for 4+ hours (commercials say see a doctor, I’d rather see a sorority house), but explaining away the unexplainable with magical explanations is as real as the emails I get from the prime minister of Nigeria who wants to send me $4 million dollars via a cashiers check.

Nai-eve. Get real. I point you to Arachaea, aka Archaebacteria and Extremophiles. These miraculous organisms live in ridiculously extreme climates. Climates much like that of, I don’t know, other planets perhaps? The point is, different kinds of life require different things. Ours needs water, oxygen and beer. Anyway, as far as we know, in the 9 planets (fuck you, Pluto still counts) we have in our Solar System, we’re the only ones with real sentient life, so I guess that means we’re the only ones right? Oh wait, I forgot about the BILLIONS+ of other planets and solar systems in other galaxies and what not that we haven’t been to or seen up close. So we’re here, great, that’s awesome, but if it were so damn perfect, Canada would be part of the United States, it wouldn’t be so damn cold here in the winter, and Yellow Stone would shoot up Budweiser. Hey, a guy can dream right?

God “gives” us “Free Will” so that we can choose which path to follow. He knows what we’re going to do, but he’s “giving” us the choice to, uhm, choose what he already knows we’re going to do? To put it simply, if God can know 100% without a doubt you’re going to do it, it’s set in stone, you can’t change it, you’re just fulfilling destiny or a “plan” laid out by someone else. Either he gives us free will to do what we want (in which case there are many different paths and there is no way to KNOW which one we’ll do), or it’s all an illusion and you’ve got a puppet string coming out of your ass.

If there is a God, and he does love us, then this would never have happened. Every time I realize my calendar doesn’t say April, I wonder if there is a God and he has a sick sense of humor, but then it would have to be a really, really sick sense of humor.

I don’t actually think that evolution disproves creationism, actually if there was an “intelligent designer” this would have been an “intelligent design” to build in. It’s nature’s undo button once you figure out that giving tigers the ability to fly just wasn’t the best idea out on the market. But since the church feels that evolution cannot co-exist with creationism, point me.
5. Intelligent Designs lack of a designer

Aren’t we smart, we are truly awesome. Don’t misunderstand me, I love walking on two legs and peeing standing up, but telling me that we have to be created by a magical being just because we exist, begs questioning.
Logic dictates that if (a) we are here so we must have come from somewhere, i.e. a “designer” who is more complex and intelligent than us, then (b) a complex and intelligent designer, would also have to have come from somewhere i.e. a “designer” who is even more complex and intelligent.
If the reasoning for a God is we’re here, then where did he come from? My favorite famous lines are “he always was” and “no one knows”. Shave the wool off your back and follow the herd if you believe that. If someone HAD to have created us, they would have HAD to have been created. If our creator could have ALWAYS been or just magically appeared, then so could we have.
We can’t just assert that God is mightier and he just magically came to be, if that’s the logic, I say someone still had to find him in the bottom of a cereal box, it’s a paradox.

“Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation’s capital.” He’s advocating for FREEDOM, come on, how can you not love freedom. He wants to legalize pot and I’ve seen him kiss at least 6 babies in the past week. He wants to get rid of the IRS, imagine a world without angry letters from those bastards! If God existed, Ron Paul wouldn’t be just President, he would have been made Co-God back in the 60s.

Alcohol, the leading cause of drunk driving, and as such the leading cause of alcohol-related deaths, is totally cool for me to drive down to the liquor store to pick up and binge drink on. On the flip side, lighting up a joint and scarfing down a large pizza or two will get you boned hard. If God was around, he’d rather I eat a bag of Doritos and pass out than get drunk, beat my wife and piss on the couch. The worst that can happen with pot is smoking yourself stupid and passing out, but alcohol makes people angry. Hulk mad. If only there were a God? and then Ron Paul would set the record straight.
8. Bad things happen to good people, great things happen to bad people
For a society that constantly gets the short end of the stick when it comes to miracles, I’ve never fully understood how people can whipe away such an obvious shortcoming with one or two hail marys. If we’re God’s children, how come Bin Laden hasn’t been bent over his knee and beat with a wooden spoon yet? Why the hell are people stopping to help stalled motorists and getting raped murdered, and why is it that every time a girl scout makes it to my door she’s out of thin mints? I’m sick of it. Shortbread cookies suck, they do. There, I said it. Aside from such atrocities, every single day bad people get rewarded, while good people are getting creamed on the side of the road by drunk drivers. Give credit where credit is due, if you’re an asshole, you should have karma spitting in your face, and if you’re a good-looking, stand-up guy who wants some damn thin mints, you should get some damn thin mints.

If we’re supposed to believe in a God, and he wants us to believe in him, and the only way for eternal salvation is to believe, then why can’t he take 30 seconds to hop off his throne made of golden baby carcasses and pop in and have coffee with me tomorrow? Starbucks, 10:30, I’ll buy. If it’s such a big deal to believe, why is it not such a big deal to give a reason to believe in?

Ever notice how religions promise us stuff that cannot be instantly proven? One of the biggest promises is heaven after we die or in Islam they promise 72 virgins. That has got to be the lowest thing.. promising pussy in the after life for accepting their religion.
The biggest logical fallacy is that a religion can offer us millions and millions of years of heaven for accepting their beliefs for just 100 years max? What is the ratio there there, how can accepting something for 100 years or so get you something for millions of years (or eternity) to come. When something looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Conclusion
I don’t want you to change your views for me, hell I don’t care if you DO believe that Jesus is magic and my house was struck by lightning and swiftly burnt to the ground right after posting this. It’s your life, do what you want, but don’t sit back and take everything you’re told with a spoonful of sugar and a blindfold, that’s for republicans.
About the Author: David enjoys long walks on the beach, casual strolls down the boulevard and writing long and drawn out posts in his underwear in the wee hours of the morning.
34 Responses
robertl
January 22nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
1Great piece, but stop making an ass of yourself with the republican remarks.
Tim
January 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
2Interesting article. Here are my thoughts.
1. Not sure what point you?re trying to make here except that organism needing oxygen, who happen to be living on an oxygen rich planet, does not prove that there?s a God. I agree.
2. Interesting argument and one that was made almost five-hundred years ago by one of history?s most important theologians; John Calvin. Martin Luther (as in the reformer, not the black preacher/activist) also agreed. John Wesley disagreed. I happen to think that the argument is a little short sighted and rests on an understanding of what is possible for a human, rather than what might be possible for an all knowing, all powerful God?if one were to exist. Put simply, even as a human I understand that, when a young woman hooks up and marries a drug addict, he probably isn?t going to suddenly become an upright citizen, adopt her baby, get a good job, and give her a good life. I know that ahead of time, but it is till very much her who makes the decision. Imagine then what God - who has a bird?s eye view, has seen every second of history, and knows the future ? understands. You are faced with a decision, and you make the decision, he just happens to know which decision you?re going to make. I don?t personally see the problem there, but that?s my argument. John Calvin and Martin Luther would disagree.
3. I assume you?re joking here but would say that, on issues of social justice, Hillary?s viewpoint lines up a lot more with the teachings of Jesus Christ than many of her Republican counterparts.
4. Actually, many Christians would agree with you whole heartedly. Ever heard of Theo-Evolutionists?
5. See point number two. If we?re speaking about logic, then we have to assume that the thing that makes him God is that he exists far outside what is possible for a human being. If he were capable of nothing more than a few magic tricks (as you say), than he would be nothing more than a mean kid living up in the sky. If he?s God, however, and the one true God, then he lives beyond human physics and time and space are not issues. Though I admit that I too struggle with the idea that God ?has always been?. As a human, I find it completely incomprehendible.
6. : )
7. See ?Free Will?. Let me add that free will gets a bad wrap by both religious and non-religious people but I would argue that, without it, we?re incapable of any emotions (including love) because everything we do we do out of habit or because we?re programmed to do it. If I do something out of habit or instinct I do it without any joy or sorrow. Imagine life without emotion? How much would that suck?
8. Again, ?Free Will?. It comes with its drawbacks but life without it wouldn?t be ?life!? at all.
9. I actually agree with this one but would argue that our reason for believing is all around us. From nature, to science, to several thousand years of the recorded history of God interacting with mankind. I don?t believe that God asks for blind faith.
10. For the record, only the radical Muslims promise pussy in the afterlife. : ) The rest just get streets of gold. As for the rest of your argument?mmmmm?I?m not sure how to respond to this one. Why do parents lavish love on their children when all that their children do is take, and take, and take? And what does love mean? Figure that out and I guess you?ll understand why we only need to ?believe? to get eternal life. And if you do figure those things out, please write an article about it and let the rest of us know.
11. As for your conclusion, you?ve just argued my theory for ?Free Will?. : )
Jason
January 22nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
3This is an interesting subject, but I’d like to see it done seriously and thoughtfully.
Ross
January 22nd, 2008 at 5:49 pm
4Thank you! That article just made my day :-D
Rockin' Rich
January 22nd, 2008 at 8:19 pm
5Yeah, Ron Paul. What a guy.
He’s a right-wing asshole, you idiot!
Put that bong away and get a clue, numb-nuts.
Blern
January 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm
6Blern Most Popular…
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Cameron
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:13 am
7Spoken like a pseudointellectual republican.
Marvel
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:18 am
8Well. Another caricature of an interesting debate.
For instance 1? is about finetuning of universe. Saying “BILLIONS+ of other planets and solar systems” solve the unprobability of our existence is just wrong, because we are in other order of magnitudes : what is the Billions in comparison to the 10 “puissance” 60 decimal precision of universes variable ? This is a real question, if constants of universes where not precisely tuned life could not exist. The answer to that is not “there are billions of planets” because it can’t compare. The answers are : the contants may be correlated or there is an infinity of parallele universes or there is a big architect.
But nothing as simpler as your post.
Marvel
Chris
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:25 am
9U should make a book out of this. Send complimentary copies to heads of organised faiths, Vatican & Mecca first.
LoL.
Pakott
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:43 am
10There is two things that make me sick about religious people.
One is those sentences “if God wants”, “we are in God’s hands”…etc…I mean, we are a sort of “automatas” and everything happens because the will of God…so, I don’t have to be worried about my sins because it was the God wills…ah!! in that case it is my foult, I cheated God. God is not responsable about the hunger in Africa, the Tsunami in Asia an Bush in America, the gilties are the entire human being, even the no american voters.
Two is that if you are no believer and say what you think it is an insult to the believers…WHY?? God is in their side, they don’t have anything to fear, why are they feeling attacked if you say your thinkings. Why do they pray for you for telling that?? Are they as sure as they seemed to be?? But if they say their thinkings of God and religion and the sinners like you, you can’t feel atacked cause they have the ONLY true…but they are not pretty sure about that and don’t want to listen what you say….they really insult me telling me sinner and I can’t say that God doesn’t exist…
X-Men
January 23rd, 2008 at 6:12 am
11You will see the truth when you die.
merlinux
January 23rd, 2008 at 8:29 am
12George Carlin gives us elocuent reason not to believe religion
http://es.netlog.com/go/explore/videos/videoid=645036
Steinschmetzer
January 23rd, 2008 at 8:50 am
13That stuff with promising pussy in the afterlife is stolen from Bill Maher i guess…
AugustoM
January 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 am
14This article is a lot of shit! You haven’t the reason and you will never have it. So, what will happen when you die? Why the people feel love? How the universe began to exist? Millions of people are wrong? Don’t criticize the religion if you don’t know the answer for these questions. Only God know it.
I speak Spanish really. I’m sorry for my bad English.
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Leandro
January 23rd, 2008 at 11:35 am
15Logic isn’t something you have to believe in, it’s something you only have to think about and learn. You can’t deny logic as is evident, while you actually can deny faith because to believe is a voluntary act. And again we’re talking about the existence or not of a real free will (and I mean real like capable of being measured, not “really free” as “completely free”). So your entire post seems to me kind of “ill posed”
Enric
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:40 pm
16I agree with the poster, logic is totally against religion. Logic proves things, it works, we have technology and science thanks to it.
And religion just gives a lot of wrong knowledge, written in a book 2000 years ago (written by incult people), and it has been already proved several times that Bible lies, like when it says earth is flat, the sky is a solid dome, god created the sun, and the stars “also”, sun goes around earth, and earth is the middle of universe…
Of course, Church recognized finally that those ideas were wrong, (and apologised to Galileo in 1997!!), but since evolution remains a theory and hasn’t been 100% proved already, they keep trying to make pseude-science with their Creationism, which states that god created everything… But then… who created god? He created himself? He was created by another, bigger god?
We just CANNOT know these things. Everything we can do about it is “guess”… and that’s religion, a big guess…. an invention, to answer questions which nobody could answer. Because human is - by instinct - afraid of unknown, so they prefered to have an invented answer instead of an incognita.
It’s a shame that nowadays, with this modern society we have, there are people who still thinks like in medieval age… We should forbid religion and stop the brainwashing they do to their children, who will believe in that fake knowledge during all their lives…
Enric
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
17Btw, I’m sorry for my spelling mistakes, I’m not native english speaker, I’m from Catalonia, Spain (Europe).
Will
January 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
18Religion was really used in the early ages to give the people to believe in and something to do. Now that we know better its all really bullshit.
Albert
January 24th, 2008 at 5:40 am
19Great post. Religion was CREATED to control the lesser people, people which can’t think for themselves, people that need faith. I always wonder what will happen to these people when the day come, when someone proves beyond a reasonable doubt that there is no voodoo man in the sky. I just can’t wait for that day.
Albert
January 24th, 2008 at 5:48 am
20Great post!!!.
Albert
January 24th, 2008 at 5:49 am
21Religion was CREATED to control the lesser people, people which can’t think for themselves, people that need faith. I always wonder what will happen to these people when the day come, when someone proves beyond a reasonable doubt that there is no voodoo man in the sky. I just can’t wait for that day.
Tim
January 26th, 2008 at 9:56 am
22Wow, there’s a lot of really bad science and resourcing in these responses. I’d suggest some of you actually check out what the Bible says on some of these topics before you use it as a source.
Enric
January 26th, 2008 at 11:55 am
23Tim, you can check this:
http://www.goatstar.org/the-bibles-flat-earthsolid-sky-dome-universe/#flat%20earth
They explain the exact verses of the Bible that talk about a “flat earth”, and the rest of topics i mentioned.
For some extra info, check this website, “Absurdities of the Bible”:
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/clarence_darrow/bible_absurdities.html
Venus
January 27th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
24Okay, some of these are logical arguments, others just reveal how much you’re trying to bs.
About ID… ID is something created by radical Christians, not the church. The church never had a problem with evolution, and the only reason they had a problem with Galileo was an ego-spat between him and the pope.
Sarah
February 7th, 2008 at 11:40 am
25I really enjoyed reading this post. I’ve always believed more in logic than in religion, and while you probably would have saved yourself a lot of grief providing more source material for your posts, I found this blog quite interesting to read.
And to some of the other posters: not supporting Hillary does NOT make you a Republican and while Ron Paul is running under the Republican flag, have any of you read what he stands for? If anything, he is a Libertarian.
Greg
February 12th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
26I enjoyed your article. But I think that you and some of your commentors (both the secular and theist commentors) have little to no back ground in philosophy.
I find it interesting that most atheists point to world suffering as a proof that God does not exist. Interesting, but no suprise when you consider that the Problem of Pain is the only philosophical argument that even claims to prove that there is no God. When, in comparison there are maybe a few dozen or so arguments that give a logical proof that God exists. I’d say at least half of them are valid.
These arguments prove nothing about the nature of God, nor do they attempt to. But, I would say that they prove enough to refute atheism. Look some of them up:
The First Cause Argument/Contingency Argument
The Argument From Design (popularly known by the “Watchmaker” essay)
The Argument From Desire
The Argument From Conscience
I’ve also noticed that atheists love to remove from themselves, the burden of proof. They can say “God does not exist.” but hide behind the “can’t prove a negative” idea. By this rationale, the hard line Christian who says “Evolution did not happen.” is also free of the burden of proof, and I call bullshit on both of them.
An essay on atheism written by the creator of http://www.deism.com wrote this:
“The atheist demands that the Deist, or theist, provide evidence for the existence of God. They continually resort to logical fallacies of their own, for example, a common one is the Petitio principii (begging the question) fallacy; it goes something like this: there is no God because we find no evidence of God in nature. But is this true? No. We presently do not know enough about nature to make such a conclusion, eventually, the possibility that there is a God could be proven. The atheist has no evidence that the universe is eternal or accidental; they are assuming that scientific speculation somehow equals scientific fact. Obviously there is a great gap between speculation and fact to the rational mind.”
While I do not personally agree with all of his work, I think he has made a very solid argument on this essay.
As for the whole evolution thing… it’s sadly ridiculous. I would love to know where people got it in their heads that if God exists, evolution could not. Or its antithesis: evolution proves that there is no God. Both ideas are laughable. At what point in ANY theory of evolution does it claim that it has, or is even trying to disprove God? Besides, the Catholic Church was in support of evolutionary science and research, and had no problem with it. They were even very public about this as early as 1950.
It’s even more ridiculous to me when I consider that learning and getting excited about evolution actually contributed more to my own belief in God than any church or preacher could ever have hoped to do.
I hope no one takes me as being snide or coming off as “holier than thou”. Most atheists/agnostics I meet are in their frame of mind because of an asshole religious nut that know or once knew.
Don’t let one jackass ruin it for you. The number of Muslims blowing themselves up for the promise of dozens of virgins in heaven, pale in comparison to the number of Muslims who find the notion ridiculous and insulting. You hear the loudmouthed assholes of the group more than any other…. because they are the loudmouthed assholes (go to any European country and see a shocked face when you don’t think like Bush, or have more composure and dignity than Brittney Spears).
I’m not trying to convert anyone here, but almost EVERYBODY goes into this discussion already believing one way or the other and can’t possibly be moved. That is dangerous for any party, whether you believe in God you don’t, you’re walking into discussion with a closed, dogmatic, mind-set,* and the only thing that will accomplish is to engender resentment, dissillusionment and the thought that the other side was full of hopeless dunderheads.
*Atheists can be as dogmatic and organized as any religion, take a look at http://www.secular.org. They have a mission, they hold events, you can become a member and even donate (read: tithe).
Tony
February 13th, 2008 at 9:13 am
27God loves you David and I’ll pray for you. This response is not to anger you or to get you to respond. Just know that you are loved by your creator and he sent his son to die for you so you could be with him forever.
Lou
February 25th, 2008 at 6:15 am
28I agree that saying there must be an intelligent designer more complex than us is illogical, but so is the Big Bang Theory. Where did the universe come from? Scientist’s can’t think beyond that, because they are stuck in a cause-and-effect universe in which there must be some initial cause for all of this. There must be some other reality or realities where cause-and-effect and time do not exist, and which are supporting/creating this reality. But of course proving such a thing is most likely impossible.
Chinese
March 4th, 2008 at 5:45 am
29ok , where is here? USA bbs?
why I’m going it ?
-Anonymous-
March 30th, 2008 at 6:50 am
30I wish people were not as stupid as they are… most people just get too carried away to be able to see things as they are.
The worst is that it is practically impossible to help stupid people, as they refuse to change and because there are too many of them.
I would like to thank all the people who want to free other from the bond of religion, it is really humanistic and I appreciate the effort you are making to help them, but I must tell you, it is a lost cause.
Anyway, I have already lost any kind of hope in mankind, as most are just way too stupid, and those who are not, are out there making use of stupid people or trying to find a way to do it.
But before I end this post I would want to congratulate religion, government, and companies for being able to control mankind so efficiently, without most of them even noticing it.
Goodbye to you all and lets hope I can get my share out of people before we obliterate our own stupid asses.
jesse hoyle
April 7th, 2008 at 5:18 am
31dont agree with you about the political side of things, but a very good article nonetheless.
+5
Vicky
May 11th, 2008 at 1:44 am
32we think alike, at least in case of religions.
Gemini
May 21st, 2008 at 10:08 pm
33Dave, I realy enjoyed this post. Saying what others are thinking, but are too afraid to say is always a good way to get a laugh. I also have to agree with anonymous, there will never be a shortage of stupid people to be manipulated and brain washed on this planet.
Recently I was amazed by the response I got from friends and family when I told them I invited the local door to door Jehovahs into my home for an indepth discusion into religion. It was like I commited social suicide. They were convinced I was going to sell all my posessions and join a cult…um, I’m a free thinker, thank you very much! Like having a discussion with them was going to force me to change my opinions.
What are you affraid of people? If you have a mind and are capable of using it, don’t be scared to listen to other peoples religious beliefs and draw your own conclusions. Slaming the door in their faces just shows that you are unsure of yourself. Treat it like a game, “Stump the Jehovah”.
Likewise, don’t get pissy when someone shits on your religion, it just makes you look insecure.
For myself, I have no religion. I can neither believe nor disbelieve in “God” at this point in my life. So I will be content to sit on the fence and study many religions until I make my own educated decision. Of course I could die before achieving this, but it’s a risk I’m willing to take.
Oh, and Dave, You’re right, If there was a God, Canada would become a part of the States. We have the best beer, the best weed and the sweetest pussy in all the world. Keep praying buddy, it just might happen.
Sorry for my bad english, I speak Canadian Eh! and the fact it’s 1:00am has nothing to do with it.
-Anon-
May 31st, 2008 at 2:39 am
34Great job man. Screw religion.
Like mentioned above, Galileo’s case’s a classic. So’s evolution. And witch hunting. They’d burn their own believers to feel a sense of security over something that doesn’t exist.
Then comes in “God’s Love”. “God” “condemned” the lives of…800000(?) in the recent quake and hurricane. Wow, if that’s love, i don’t want to see what happens to people “he” hates. If he really loves us so much, why doesn’t he bring us all to “heaven” when we die? Since “he” is “almighty” and “omnipresent” anyway. While “he”’s at it, I’m pretty sure “he” can get rid the diseases and suffering that plagues the earth.
Stop believing in that bullshit called religion already. Face it, there is NO GOD in this world. Snap out of it.
Oh, if you see a 17 yr old male in Singapore dying in a weird fashion in the next couple of days, that would be me, and you guys would know that there MIGHT be a god in this world afterall. Till then…screw him.
Ben.
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